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Vantrepes
02-23-2008, 11:41 PM
If you have a sketch of a cocker body, or even a rough idea for one, post it here, and I'll see what I can do.
I have been trying to come up with a few designs for a gift to a friend of mine, and I seem to be out of fresh ideas.

KPCS
02-23-2008, 11:55 PM
If you have a sketch of a cocker body, or even a rough idea for one, post it here, and I'll see what I can do.
I have been trying to come up with a few designs for a gift to a friend of mine, and I seem to be out of fresh ideas.
First I would like to say Welcome and glad to have you as a Sponsor to the forum ( glad I'm not alone here ).
Second, it sucks to be out of ideas for milling designs .... believe me I know what you going through. Brain locked on milling idea is the worst thing. I have done everything I could think of that has not been done or that I have the machines to do. Then you get customs that say " what every you want to mill is fine with me " ... like I know what they like ....
Your welcome to go through my gallery for ideas .... http://www.kpcspb.com/CustomZone/showthread.php?t=9

Best of luck to you...

Ken W

Vantrepes
02-24-2008, 12:53 AM
That's the problem, I start a design, then say "Ah crap, that looks like (fill in brand name here)" and I scrap it.

jamrens
02-24-2008, 01:03 AM
van i whold love to see a cocker with the marker milled kinda like my dark http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p157/rednecksniper/100_0006.jpg just and idea, or you could make some e blade triggers.

or since kpcs has the maduce what about ma trace? a 3 barrelled cocker whould rock

jt_trouble
02-24-2008, 01:46 AM
you could make some e blade triggers.

There you go for an idea!! You can make a run of E1/Worrblade triggers for all us folk that want one ... believe me there are lots of peeps who would prolly line up for a custom made trigger ... I know I would !!

jamrens
02-24-2008, 02:01 AM
i whould really like to get one with the milling from my dark with the mid block design of the pbx prototype

Cossar
02-24-2008, 02:16 AM
I don't remember where I got this picture, but it is from another person that does milling. You could mill something similar to it perhaps?

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f37/mjvandine/slotted20flowline11.jpg

chrisshanks
02-24-2008, 02:29 AM
how about something industrial themed?

I like the look of sheet metal over lapping with random sizes & uneven edges & the little pits around the perimiter of the lines that resemble rivets
... perhaps even keep all the holes square shaped & sort of A-symetrical with the occasional mill into the body for no apparent reason, keeping the originality the same just a repeating pattern in smaller or lager sizes

or just the opposite...

do a "organic" themed design, lots of curves & waves that resemble vines, air flow, etc...

or you could do a roman/greek revival theme (says the contractor) just take a note from your crown molding around your house, or the door/window casing... lots of lines & scocia's working together to define the areas of your home

just trying to help get the brain juices flowing

-chris

k.macocker
02-24-2008, 02:51 AM
make it look like 2 tube running though rings or other thicker sections of unique designes. the thicker sections would be controlled by the sections required by internal tube thickness.
make sense?? thick in very back, around valve area, barrel threaded section and feedneck. sort of like a spanky but with milling and not pressed in tubes. and less sutble.. the less is more theory..
Kmac

dave88ia
02-24-2008, 03:17 AM
i say sum e1 and e2 triggers

maybe just sum trigger frames... electro tho !!

DeTrevni
02-24-2008, 07:05 AM
Oh, I may have to run up a sketch for a body now! I've had a few I was thinking about...

And to the people saying "U SHUD MILL LIEK <insert 'cocker here>!!1!" the point is to mill something NOT similar to someone else's work...

jamrens
02-24-2008, 01:32 PM
something else i was thinking is what about the 2 piece design of the z force i think it was a great idea but made at the wrong time in the cocker world

txaggie08
02-27-2008, 05:13 AM
if you wanna mill something, make a new e-frame that will take a microswitch and use the eblade board. make it with a huge trigger guard as well..


That would kick ass..

grant.patterson
02-27-2008, 07:08 AM
I agree with the others on the triggers. Alot of people want or need e1 triggers. Custom triggers would be tits.:cool:

wiffle32
02-27-2008, 05:06 PM
A lot of people... ie the "mill a trigger or a frame!" people seem to be completely oblivious to the purpose of this thread. They cannot be redeemed, go home.

I'll draft something up and post it, we'll see if you can CAD it up.

I liked chrisshank's suggestion about the industrial theme, and had my own take on it.

The flange bolts would be a lot of work, but the flanges kid of set the theme. I'm not sure on the manufacturability of this design, so a CAD artist will have to make adjustments as necessary.

Bolt pin, clamp knob and detent I figured could be made to look like red valve wheels for authenticity. Any flanges would be ano'd brass, Heat transfer pipes (the tubes) in silver, black iron for the fittings... And I had a thought that the frontblock could be made to look like a radiator type of fitting... grey front with copper tubes in a steel frame...

Well, here it is:
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7206/dscf1083qh0.th.jpg (http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf1083qh0.jpg)

JonoTwisT
03-01-2008, 08:52 PM
The idea of Better trigger frames makes me all giddy. (jk)
But what about something like a bare bones cocker body?


I guess thats kinda like a UL cocker.

txaggie08
03-03-2008, 05:05 AM
A lot of people... ie the "mill a trigger or a frame!" people seem to be completely oblivious to the purpose of this thread. They cannot be redeemed, go home.



Cheery and carin fella arent you

Vantrepes
03-03-2008, 09:42 AM
I have been playing with the industrial idea a bit, but nothing worth posting yet. Time will tell.

Segador
03-03-2008, 01:07 PM
ok i am a pretty good drawer i will make a sketch a good one... i will reply later today

Ddbrewski
03-03-2008, 01:20 PM
I just got done watching Conan the Barbarian(favorite all time "Govenetter" movie) and it gave me an idea. They had a sword with a bunch of Celtic design on it. I think it would be interesting to do that to a cocker body. If possible, it could be annoed to make it look like pewter. It probably has been done before, but it is original in my head at least.

Oooh, another idea. I know this one is orignal. I wear the Army DCU pattern everyday but it just occured to me. You could possibly mill the digital design instead of just coloring the body. You could do the dots in 3 different layers. What a nightmare of a project that would be though.

Hope this helps. I just am trying to throw a little help in return from all the headaches you saved me from on my cockers.

Segador
03-03-2008, 02:59 PM
OK it looks a lil crapy cuz i did it fast but here it is...

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x198/CP0927/lastscan.jpg

and if u take the idea and make it pls be intouch cuz i want one :D

Vantrepes
03-04-2008, 12:17 AM
The devil cocker idea is interesting, but the frame wouldn't be able to be recessed into the body like a DM.

I'll play around with the Celtic idea, see what I can lift :)
The DCU pattern is this stuff?
http://armor.typepad.com/bastardsword/images/acu1.jpg
Three layers wouldn't be hard to do at different depths, you just wouldn't be able to see much of a difference between them without a color differential.

Ddbrewski
03-04-2008, 05:50 AM
I am on a government computer and can't see or post any pics because everything is blocked to keep us from looking at porn. I am lucky they let me on a site that says cocker.

The ACU pattern is just the new pattern the Army is making us wear. It is a greyish green that is suppose to provide for the different theatres we are in. I am pretty sure its everywhere in paintball as well. If you want to get really fancy, see if you can find a picture of the Air Force's tiger stripe digital pattern. ...I know, I know who needs camouflage when you're in the air??????????

Sorry, I get all the acronyms mixed up. ACU = greenish grey digital pattern stuff. DCU = tanish brown stuff.

Railgun
03-05-2008, 03:25 AM
I don't remember where I got this picture, but it is from another person that does milling. You could mill something similar to it perhaps?

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f37/mjvandine/slotted20flowline11.jpg

Now THAT is different. Have not seen anything like that ever. Mind you I've only been in paintball for a year and a half....

I like the runaway industrial idea of Chrisshanks as well. Especially if it could be anodized for different sheens and shades and some red-brown in the corners to simulate rust and really make it look like it was built up and riveted together instead of milled from solid.

There's only so many ways to cut metal away from a standard extrusion. After a while they all look at least a little like something else. That's why I'm impressed by that one milling job and Chris' idea.

Of course then you would need to make a matching boiler plate hopper.... :D

Deadmeat99
03-05-2008, 07:27 PM
I like the idea of making the asa integrated into the body of the marker kind of like a dye matrix, make the marker flow more.

Firehwk
03-08-2008, 06:51 AM
what about a body that looks like it is made out of separate aluminum tubes that are welded together?

I'll draw up a crappy ms paint drawing later today. I'm going to bed.

guillieyetti
03-08-2008, 05:40 PM
The industrial idea is interesting, but you see that kind of thing alot. I think you should go with something more natural looking, kind of like fire in the front, and watter in the back, then anno it red-blue fade. I dunno maybe not, just an idea.

guillieyetti
03-08-2008, 05:40 PM
oops.

Cocker Master
07-04-2008, 02:22 PM
this styling, on a cocker

http://people.lulu.com/storage/users/648/197648/images/25582/stealth%20fighter.jpg

rtfd262
07-25-2008, 03:06 PM
I'm just gonna say two words, then walk away. Chantilly... Lace...

Wait... no...

Diamond plate, that's better. Simple and I think it would look sick. Just take the old school bricks and mill out the main field leaving the diamonds raised.

And what CAD program are you using? I think I might be able to whip this up and send it to you. Just need to try and remember how to use ProE again.

Then again I could just go buy an old brick and screw some diamond plate to it. But that would border on not being nearly as awesome.

initialfaust
07-31-2008, 03:30 PM
whatever happened to the ultralight body? it really is a shame that the shop at my school didn't have a 5 axis that i could have done that for you on.

Vantrepes
08-01-2008, 09:46 AM
initial, I am lacking time, money and motivation to finish it :)

Cocker Master
08-01-2008, 05:44 PM
this styling, on a cocker

http://people.lulu.com/storage/users/648/197648/images/25582/stealth%20fighter.jpg

Good idea? ya? no?

dbkid0486
08-01-2008, 06:59 PM
Good idea? ya? no?

this reminds me of the way that Orange County Choppers designs their bikes....

although it would be a mean design :D

Cocker Master
08-01-2008, 07:07 PM
although it would be a mean design :D

thats what I thought, flat black with milling to produce those stealth-fighter-like angles.

initialfaust
08-01-2008, 07:29 PM
initial, I am lacking time, money and motivation to finish it :)

haha yeah. you still in ontario? i don't know if you saw that PM yet but i am back in the area. just need to get the markers looked over and all that jazz.

Vantrepes
08-01-2008, 09:15 PM
Master, look at the FBM Apache, they did pretty much the same idea if I recall correctly.
initial, planning on going to NVP any time soon? We could meet up there.

initialfaust
08-02-2008, 05:07 AM
where is NVP? it wasnt around back when i was playing in town. at least not that i know of. i need to get the orings changed and oil/grease the guns. they have been sitting for a while. i also need to pick up some air tanks.

Vantrepes
08-02-2008, 03:31 PM
NVP is on University, same builting as Hot Shots, and the wall climbing place. It's a really small field, smaller than Compete but larger than Pat's, and the paint is $65 a case or so.
I was sort of planning on going down there next weekend to play, so let me know, and maybe we can meet up.

initialfaust
08-02-2008, 04:27 PM
ohh ok. i know where it is now. i remember seeing it when i dropped my friend off at hot shots. ohh and i might be interested in taking one of those e-blades off your hands. just gotta find another job first.

Ace24
08-12-2008, 07:04 AM
Good idea? ya? no?

http://www.fireballmountain.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/27apache.jpg

FBM already did it.

It was good seeing you at NVP on Sun, Moody.