View Full Version : Signature Series Chrome Serial #-001

12-18-2008, 02:08 AM
I'm not sure where to ask "what it's worth" so feel free to move it to the right place.

Jason Chipley (CCM) brought this over to the shop the other day and asked me to sell it.I have the body and the shroud that covers the pnues and a great big cloth courda style suite case.The case is very garage dirty and one of the strap handles is broke.The chrome has some small bubbles on it.
This was given to Jason by someone at wgp. Notice the serial # is -001

I have no idea what it is worth.Anybody have an idea?




12-18-2008, 02:16 AM

that is bad ass

i would say a couple hundred

it looks like a relic

Crimson Death
12-18-2008, 02:20 AM
Id say around 200ish

hula popper
12-18-2008, 03:13 AM
Nice peace. Not sure of value but I can tell you a little about it. It's a Bud Orr signature series Autococker. It was Bud's attempt of a high end Autococker back in the mid 90's I think 96? It was sold in a WGP embrorderd bag with a Viewloader,20oz and parts kit. I think it retailed around $1200 but pretty much failed do to the chrome flaking off. There was supposedly 500 made but the rumor was around 150 do to the bad chrome. Cool peace of cocker history. I am sure there is a gun whore here that will want it.

12-18-2008, 04:01 AM
it's difficult to say the value on such a piece. you can get an idea of what most of them will sell for, but that one is just the body, but then again that one is #1..
I think ebay would tell you how much it's "worth" haha.

Im sure wolf13 can give a more definitive opinion.
and here is a link to see wolf's complete one
http://www.pbase.com/wolf13/1_8_2_boss (http://www.pbase.com/wolf13/1_5_2_boss)

//I edited your link Kmac, I have been rearranging a little/wolf13

12-18-2008, 08:49 AM
I don't remember what PWPaintball paid for the set he got (complete marker in case) a couple years ago... maybe drop him a line on MCB and ask for an opinion? That way you can get a ballpark estimate since that's the #1 and all. Pretty cool.

12-18-2008, 08:25 PM
I think i ended up paying 150 or so for mine complete, but in rough shape. these were meant to be the predeccessor to the STO. WGP was getting hammered for not producing a ready to use tournament level gun back in the early/mid 90's. Jeff Orr was supposidly the mind behind this, taking what he thought was what a tourny gun market wanted. These did have some serious upgrades over a stock wgp, but even in that day and age were well behind the curve (not even a 45 frame). Advertising was virtually nil, I&I was about the only distributor i've been able to trace. I&I advertised these at $1200, which compared to an evolution or stage 2 or even barebones stage 3 BBT or some of the other $1k-$1300 range offerings at the time was seriosuly overpriced. Advertised production dropped from 500 to 250 then supposidly to 125. Plating problems had a part it seems in canceling production, but it's likely poor sales didn't help. these came as a package with bag with logo and serial, VL, barrel and 20oz tank. Supposidly a certificate was supposed to be included, but i've yet to see one. By the time these were hitting the streets the STO's were in the prototyping stage and were a lot more mainstream gun then these.

I'd possabily be interested in it, be kinda cool to swap my degraded body for the #1 to bring it too life.

This is the 96 I&I ad

12-18-2008, 08:38 PM
I doubt it's #1, Bud usually kept those for himself. I have no idea why there is a minus sign in front of the serial number though. The signature series stamp was used on more than just the nickel plated guns that came in the cases. I'm thinking this was made just for JC by someone at WGP.

I've never seen a certificate to come with any of these either, so I doubt that ever happened.

Value wise $150 maybe? Hard to say since I've only ever seen the complete gun come up for sale with the case and those have gone $200sh or so.

12-19-2008, 01:51 AM
As the story was told to me.Jason was at wgp when they were finishing up the run.He said where's mine.A few weeks later this guy shows up at Jason's shop with a complete kit.Even on the bag is the serial number -001. I said :cool:

12-23-2008, 07:07 AM
Oh, the good ol days when you could walk into WGP's shop, chat with Bud, then get a custom marker hand delivered to you. Excuse me while I go cry in a corner for not being born earlier. If it had more matching parts, id be tempted to make an offer.

01-15-2009, 04:10 AM
yes the serial # is on the bag well it's more like a suit case, I will check on the certificate, I know where #8 is, the chrome is still in tact on the one I know of due to it has never been aired up or used for that fact.

01-28-2009, 03:53 AM
I dont see a certificate in this bag, every thing else is there, not saying it never existed but its not there.